Alem da Sua Imaginacao - Brazil: Feb.13, 2003

Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION Alem da sua imaginacao Teresopolis, Brazil: Feb.13, 2003 Abaixo segue uma traducao simples de uma aula de Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayna Maharaja na sua recente visita ao Brasil, em 13 de fev. de 2003. Em Preto esta no original em ingles e em Azul   , uma modesta tradução em Português por Harisarandas [You may remember that in the recent lecture in Germany, called Hear This Great Secret, Srila Narayana Maharaja discussed the secret reason for Sri Sukadeva Gosvami's concealing the truth of Krsna's birth in Vrndavana. Because Srila Maharaja also discussed this subject in Brazil just one week before coming to Germany, we are presenting herein an excerpt of that Brazilian lecture. -ed.] [ Voces talvez se lembrem desta recente aula na Alemanha, chamada "Ouça Este Grande Segredo", Srila Narayna Maharaja descutiu as razoes secretas por que Srila Sukadeva Gosvami omiti a verdade do nascimento de Krishna em Vrindavana. Srila Narayna Maharaja tambem descutiu este assunto no Brazil, uma semana antes de vir a Alemanha, estamos apresentando aqui uma parte da aula no Brasil] In the Srimad-Bhagavatam Srila Sukadeva Gosvami has hidden the fact that Krsna is the son of Yasoda and Nanda Baba.  He never directly said that Krsna is Vrajendra-nandana; he only said it indirectly. What he said directly was that Krsna is Yadu-pati, Yadu-natha, and Yadu-nandana. He externally declared that Krsna took birth in Kamsa's jail, from the womb of Devaki, and was sent from there to Gokula.  No Srimad Bhagavatam Srila Sukadeva Gosvami esconde o fato de que Krishna era o filho de Yasoda e Nanda Baba. Ele nunca disse diretamente que Krishna e' Vrajendra-nandana; ele apenas disse indiretamente. O que ele disse diretamente e' que Krishna e' Yadu-pati, Yadu-natha e Yadu-nandana. Ele externamete declara que Krishna nasceu na prisao de Kansas, no ventre de Devaki, e foi levado dela para Gokula. Why did Srila Sukadeva Gosvami want to hide the fact that Krsna was the son of Yasoda and Nanda? He knew that Krsna is eternally their son, so why did he conceal it? The secret reason is that general people do not have enough intelligence to understand the deep and secret truths of Krsna's activities, and therefore he concealed something from us. Por que Srila Sukadeva Gosvami quiz esconder o fato de que Krishna era o filho de Yasoda e Nanda ? Ele sabia que Krishna era eternamente seu filho,entao por que ele escondeu isto ? O segredo da razao, e' que o povo em geral nao teria inteligencia suficiente para entender a profundidade e segredo da verdade das atividades de Krishna,  assim sendo ele omitiu parte da verdade de nos. This is the most secret thing. If Krsna was really Nanda-nandana and Yasoda-nandana, then all the girls of Vraja, all the Vraja-ramani gopis, would be like mothers if they were the wives of His elder cousin-brothers, if they were wives of His younger cousin-brothers they would be like daughters, and they would be like sisters if they were the wives of His contemporary cousin-brothers. If Krsna was the son of Yasoda, then the girls of Vrndavana would be like sisters, cousins, and mothers. How, then, could they play in rasa-lila and other pastimes? In Vedic culture it is not allowed that relatives can dance, sing, and embrace like intimate beloveds.  No lady in Vedic culture is allowed to have a paramour relation with her brother, father, grandfather, or any other relative. This would be considered a heinous activity. Este e' o maior segredo. Se Krishna fosse realmente filho de Nanda e Yasoda, entao todas as garotas de Vraja, todas as Vraja-ramani gopis, seriam como maes, se elas fossem esposas de Seu primos mais velhos, si elas fossem esposas de Seus primos mais novos, entao elas seriam como Suas filhas, elas seriam como irmas se elas fossem esposas de Seus primos contemporanios. Se Krishna fosse filho de Yasoda, entao as garotas de Vrindavana seriam como se fossem Suas irmas, primas e maes. Entao, como poderiam eles dancar na rasa-lila e outros passatempos ? Na cultura Vedica nao e permitido que parentes possam dancar, cantar, e abracar como amantes intimos. Nenhuma lady na cultura Vedica tem a permissao de ter nunhum relationamento extra-conjugal com seu irmao, pai, avo, ou qualquer outro tipo de parente. Isto seria cosiderado uma aberracao.  If Krsna is Nanda-nandana, He would be related to all the gopis, and He could not embrace them or dance alone with them, in the night, on the bank of the Yamuna. It would be absurd. So Srila Sukadeva Gosvami hid this fact from the general people – those who are not like Sri Narada Rsi and Sri Sukadeva Gosvami himself. Se Krishna fosse Nanda-nandana, Ele seria parente de todas as gopis, e Ele nao poderia abraca-las ou dancar sizinho com elas na calada da noite... na beira do rio Yamuna. Isto seria um absurdo. Entao Srila Sukadeva Gosvami escondeu estes fatos da populacao em geral --- aqueles que nao sao como Sri Narada e Sri Sukadeva Gosvami. All the gopis are actually Krsna's own power. Srimati Radhika is His hladini-sakti, and so the gopis are Krsna Himself. Although they are His power, they are not less than Him. Krsna is naturally the beloved of all the gopis, and they are His own power; but for the enactment of His lila, for the performance of His sweet pastimes, He descends from Goloka Vrndavana with all the gopis and other Vrajavasis.  He has done this for tasting lila. It is not against Vedic culture, because He can play with His power. Todas as gopis sao na verdade o propio poder de Krishna. Srimat Radhika e' Sua hladini-sakti, e assim sendo as gopis  nao sao diferentes de Krishna . Mesmo elas sendo Seu propio poder, elas nao sao menos do que Ele. Krishna e' naturalmente o amante das gopis, e elas sao Seu propio poder; mas para  proposito de Seus Lilas, para a execucao de Seus doces passatempos, Ele descende de Goloka Vrindavana com todas as gopis e outros Vrajabasis. Ele faz isto para saboriar a variedade de Lilas. Isto nao e' contrario a Cultura Vedica, e e' desta forma que Ele desfruta de Seu poder. [Question:] You were saying that there is no fault in Krsna, because the gopis are His power and are no less than Him. Since Krsna can do anything, since He can create any pastimes, why did He create the pastimes of He and the gopis being related to each other as cousins, sisters and brothers?  Why did He create His pastimes in a way that it would be seen as so much against Vedic culture? [pergunta:] O senhor estava dizendo que nao ha falhas em Krishna, porque as gopis sao Seu poder e nao sao menos do que Ele. Desde de que Krishna pode fazer qualquer coisa, desde que Ele pode criar qualquer passatempo, por que entao Ele criou passatempos onde Ele e as gopis sao parentes, primos e irmaos ? Por que entao Ele criou Seus passatempos de forma tao contraria a Cultura Vedica ? [Srila Narayana Maharaja:] He has not done so. You could not understand my feelings. Yasoda and Nanda Baba are eternally Krsna's parents, His sakhas are eternally so, and this is especially true for the gopis.  In Brahma Samhita it is stated: [Srla Narayna Maharja:] Ele nao fez isto. Voce nao poderia entender meus sentimentos. Yasoda e Nada baba sao eternamente os parentes de Krishna, Seus sakhas sao eternamente Seus associados, e isto e' especialmente verdade para as gopis. No Brahma Samhita e declarado: ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhis tabhir ya eva nija-rupataya kalabhih goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhuto govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami ["I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord. He resides in His own realm, Goloka, with Radha, who resembles His own spiritual figure and who embodies the ecstatic potency [hladini]. Their companions are Her confidantes, who embody extensions of Her bodily form and who are imbued and permeated with ever-blissful spiritual rasa."(Sri Brahma-samhita 5.37)] ["Eu adoro Govinda, o Senhor primordial. Ele reside em Sua propia morada, Goloka, com Radha, a qual assemelha-se a Sua forma espiritual e a qual e' a corporificacao da potencia de prazer [hladini]. Suas companheiras sao as assistentes de Srimat Radhika, das quais os corpos sao expansoes do corpo Dela, e as quais estao embuidas e permeadas com um constante frescor do rasa espiritual." ( Sri Brahma-samhita 5.37)] The gopis are manifestations of Srimati Radhika. They are eternally and naturally most beloved of Krsna, and Krsna is the most beloved of the gopis. Krsna can play with His shadow, and He was doing so.  He has right to play with all His powers, the gopis. As gopis sao manifestacoes de Srimat Radhika. Elas sao eternamente e naruralmente as mais queridas de Krishna, e Krishna e' o mais amado das gopis. Why should He not do so? He is all-mighty and all-powerful.  He can do anything beyond your imagination. [It is only the perverted reflection of Krsna's activities, the activities of this world, which are subject to criticism and rules and regulations.] You cannot challenge, "Why did Krsna do this and that? Why did He descend to this world? Why could He not have arranged for us to go to the spiritual world and see His pastimes there? Why did He not die? There are so many things about Krsna that you cannot understand. Por que Ele nao o seria ? Ele e' o todo poderoso. Ele pode fazer qualquer coisa alem de nossa imaginacao. [ Isto e' apenas o reflexo pervetido das atividades de Krishna, as atividades deste mundo, o qual esta sujeito ao criticismo e regras e regulacoes] Voce nao poderia desfiar, "Por que Krishna fez isto e aquilo ? Por que Ele descende a este mundo ? Por que Ele  nao morreu ?"  Existem muitas coisa sobre Krishna que voce nao poderia entender. Por favor perdoem-me pelos erros, Seu servo Hari Saran das [If you are new to the harikatha mailing list and want to read any of the lectures that have been sent out over the last three years, you can read and also download lectures from www.gaudiya.net. The front page of this website also has a "Search"function.] Fonte atual . http://www.guardioes.com/alem_imag.htm